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We all make mistakes. I've done a lot of stupid thing in my life and I've spent money on things I wish I hadn't. I don't think you should be worried about the police... I agree that clients and sex workers should not be shamed. I just think people deserve to be well treated

Mais le problème c'est juste une personne. Plusieurs filles ont été abusées

C'est jamais suffisant

In my opinion LE doesn't get involved, the landlords don't get involved, or the neighbors just don't care. I know personally that because I used to host from home, I'm hyper aware of discretion. I have no boyfriend or children lol that's not even relevant bro

From what I hear they are rented. A lot of buildings downtown have agency or indy incalls or both. These buildings are owned by companies that are mostly interested in profit and won't really get involved unless there is a serious problem. I think that a lot of these buildings have companies...

Oui on essaie de faire allusion à ça mais je pense aussi que ça n'a pas toujours été comme ça, le marché change, les patrons changent etc. Je pense qu'il y a sûrement des endroits pires que d'autres. Vous pouvez voir des indépendantes, mais plusieurs d'entre vous ne voulez pas le faire. Sinon...

Ça ne veut dire que ce que tu fais n'es pas éthique. Le mot éthique et le mot légal n'ont pas la même signification. Tu le sais très bien. On s'éloigne de plus en plus du sujet. Le sujet étant une réalité matérielle très facile à identifier : les mauvaises conditions de travail imposées par le...

A lot of terrible things are perfectly legal too. I feel like we're straying from the initial subject and I hope this conversation is over personally because I think the goal is to dismiss all of this as silly concerns by conjuring a bunch of logical fallacies

I think to me it's impossible to do everything in a 100 percent ethical way in the society we live in. I value making educated choices, practicing harm reduction and treating others with kindness. Le crime organisé ... Mes 2 chats à qui j'achète de la bouffe avec mon argent de prostituée. ;)

Why not? What makes it unethical to you? Because it's against the law? What is ''ethical'' anyways?

C'est bien vrai...

Agencies don't only advertise on merb, and there is probably a context behind that.. I don't think they would have been able to press charges for that reason alone. This reminds me of that case that occurred a while back, a guy who filmed an appointment without a girl's consent, and she took him...

I think it's really weird that you are weaponizing abolitionist discourse in order to maintain the status quo about abuse and exploitation in the sex industry, but that's just me. lol Nobody here has said that all sex workers are ''victims'' with no voice and no options. There's a difference...

No, it is not the same. A lot of people who are for decriminalization of prostitution want sex workers to have rights and don't want us to be exploited and in danger. We never said ''agency girls are nothing but victims'', most of us have worked for spas and agencies and we never said it was...

No one said otherwise. Nobody here is saying that girls at agencies are not good providers or that all agencies operate under the same rules. That was one of my first comments. Once again this isn't an indies vs agency girls debate. Just don't be contemptuous. It's not necessary.

It's shocking to me that this thread is still going on and that people are blatantly defending exploitation. And this has been turned into a "Indies suck and charge too high" comment festival which this thread isn't even about lol A lot of indies still work for spas and agencies. By the way...

??? Nobody in Montreal charges 1000$ the hour. LOL

that sword tattoo i got on my right calf really hurt lol.. it's still hurting and i made the mistake of removing the plastic too soon, so my bedsheets are full of ink.

I've never heard that. That is insane honestly. When I worked at parlors we often had to do back to back, but there were down times.. and we could choose to do short shifts.

They are not street gangs lol street criminals don't own big bucks agencies.... it's more likely that places like this may have affiliation with the police actually, or with higher organized crime. This is probably part of why it's so difficult to dismantle them.