The problem is the investigation, by revealing the location of both incalls, put the ladies at risk. (IMO) Imagine if the SW had to deal with concern neighbours every time they begins theirs shifts or stalker and street gang members that start lurking around the place. The risk was already presents but now its amplified. The journalist checkmate James on that issue. So, for me, its more about protecting the SW than admission of guilt. But that beeing said, James full name was revealed and he was engaged in illegal activities. So its also about self -protection. Probably need all of his times to destroys the paper trail as much as he can and consult with his lawers. And getting new locations to start again...
Euphoria agency in the news
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While I dont know anything more than the next guy, I bet the name "Euphoria" holds less value than the client list and the girls on staff. If they come back as Orchid Escorts, and everyone on merb knows the former name, they probably start fresh without the baggage of the news spotlight.
The prevalence of strippers you see getting hired for bachelorette and bachelor parties you see in movies, tv and on SNL isn't invented and those agencies are not shutdown even in tough jurisdiction like in the US. They would have to shut down party clowns, magicians, and Disney princesses, too. But yes, in call agencies shift the burden of proof closer to it being an illegal business to start with. But the other owners of Euphoria could have claimed that the actions of James did not represent the company and that they are doing everything to limit worker abuse. I've visited an Amazon distribution center and their turnover is 8-10 months of their entire workforce simply because they treat their workers pretty much like inhuman robots with a large number of physical injuries often permanent.
The funny logic in Japan is that the agencies also do not promote sex work, but instead companionship with their workers "falling in love" with the client when they meet and then falling out of love when the session ends.
I don't really know what point you are trying to make here. Paying a stripper isn't illegal in Canada btw
We're talking about agencies specifically, not all businesses in the world. Obviously if we are going to talk about the horrors of hyper capitalism certain things deserve to be mentioned more than escort agencies. That doesn't mean everything that's going on at agencies is perfect and that their model can't be criticized.
I was never coerced into working this job. No one has ever forced me to become an escort however I was heavily influenced.
No one approached me to say “hey Lena, you should really become an escort it’s fun”
But I saw other girls online buying nice things, travelling to other cities, having nice condos. I asked them where they worked to be able to afford all that and they told me they were escorts. It could have stopped there. If an acquaintance asked me how I’m able to fund my life I would say the truth and nothing more.
Instead, one sent me money to go meet her and her then pimp. He quickly took photos of me and posted ads.
When I realized it wasn’t safe, I left. Met a woman who I believe is still managing ads on here for other women. She did the same, quickly took photos and posted the ads.
Then again after a bad experience, I left. Briefly joined an agency. Had a few bad experiences and left to become independent.
I don’t think clients visiting agencies are all bad, I just think what didn’t work for me was not being able to filter them myself.
Only I know my level of tolerance and what I’m comfortable with. Letting other people decide who I meet was the mistake for me. Can’t speak for others.
I don’t think it’s normal to not know who’s going to be on the other side of the door
No one approached me to say “hey Lena, you should really become an escort it’s fun”
But I saw other girls online buying nice things, travelling to other cities, having nice condos. I asked them where they worked to be able to afford all that and they told me they were escorts. It could have stopped there. If an acquaintance asked me how I’m able to fund my life I would say the truth and nothing more.
Instead, one sent me money to go meet her and her then pimp. He quickly took photos of me and posted ads.
When I realized it wasn’t safe, I left. Met a woman who I believe is still managing ads on here for other women. She did the same, quickly took photos and posted the ads.
Then again after a bad experience, I left. Briefly joined an agency. Had a few bad experiences and left to become independent.
I don’t think clients visiting agencies are all bad, I just think what didn’t work for me was not being able to filter them myself.
Only I know my level of tolerance and what I’m comfortable with. Letting other people decide who I meet was the mistake for me. Can’t speak for others.
I don’t think it’s normal to not know who’s going to be on the other side of the door
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Wow. Sex does sell and the YouTube video is now at 160k and is their most popular recent video it seems. This was great advertising for Forever.
Oh I agree - just I suspect there is an underlying kind of ptsd with Clementine (but I don't know her, so I can't say for sure obviously) that has layered the whole experience as negative from top to bottom for her. However, the media loves a black and white story, and they get it with her.
It’s only because we MERB members have all watched it 193 times in the last 72 hours, do the math.
lol
In a similar fashion as LC, here's my story. No one forced me to become an escort, but I've lived with a very low income my whole adult life. I don't want to get into why it's been difficult for me to succeed financially, a number of things happened, and I ended up in a very bad situation. I started working for a massage parlor because I knew people who got out of poverty by doing sex work, they were able to afford nice things and to finally breathe.
Initially, I just wanted to do happy endings but I realized quickly that this wasn't going to be realistic. I also didn't want to offer a GFE service for a few reasons, including health concerns, but once I became independent it was something that became imposed because otherwise I wouldn't get clients. Nobody encouraged me to do sex work, in fact many people warned me against it. But I was fucking fed up with being poor and constantly worrying about being able to afford food, never knowing what the future would be like.
I didn't enter this industry because I thought ''great it's going to be fun doing a bunch of acronyms with random men and be rated online by them''. Does this mean I think clients who book me are bad? No. I am extremely grateful for the good clients I have, because I am able to live comfortably now. There are many things I've appreciated about my journey, this includes moments when I work at MPs. Going back to work at a parlor made me wonder if I should be so critical of agencies because I understand not wanting the heavy work load associated with being an indy.. but I don't think that working at an agency would be beneficial for me, for many reasons that were brought up in this thread.
Btw I'm not writing this because I want people to feel bad for me, I know people who started doing sex work as teenagers and I was fully an adult when I began. I have had friends who were trafficked and continued doing sex work after they escaped their pimp.. I know some women are one client away from not being able to pay their rent. This is not my case. I've been able to succeed pretty well, I get to travel, take care of myself, choose my clients, decide on a work place that is suitable for me, I can tour, etc. I am lucky that I have a good education, and I have a lot of privileges in this industry. Those privileges are why I think it's important to talk about our side of the story, in nuanced ways.
I enjoy many aspects of this work, even if there are aspects I don't like.
Initially, I just wanted to do happy endings but I realized quickly that this wasn't going to be realistic. I also didn't want to offer a GFE service for a few reasons, including health concerns, but once I became independent it was something that became imposed because otherwise I wouldn't get clients. Nobody encouraged me to do sex work, in fact many people warned me against it. But I was fucking fed up with being poor and constantly worrying about being able to afford food, never knowing what the future would be like.
I didn't enter this industry because I thought ''great it's going to be fun doing a bunch of acronyms with random men and be rated online by them''. Does this mean I think clients who book me are bad? No. I am extremely grateful for the good clients I have, because I am able to live comfortably now. There are many things I've appreciated about my journey, this includes moments when I work at MPs. Going back to work at a parlor made me wonder if I should be so critical of agencies because I understand not wanting the heavy work load associated with being an indy.. but I don't think that working at an agency would be beneficial for me, for many reasons that were brought up in this thread.
Btw I'm not writing this because I want people to feel bad for me, I know people who started doing sex work as teenagers and I was fully an adult when I began. I have had friends who were trafficked and continued doing sex work after they escaped their pimp.. I know some women are one client away from not being able to pay their rent. This is not my case. I've been able to succeed pretty well, I get to travel, take care of myself, choose my clients, decide on a work place that is suitable for me, I can tour, etc. I am lucky that I have a good education, and I have a lot of privileges in this industry. Those privileges are why I think it's important to talk about our side of the story, in nuanced ways.
I enjoy many aspects of this work, even if there are aspects I don't like.
I see where you're coming from, but I also understand where she is coming from, too. I remember when I was 18-19 years old. I would never been able to get through even a day at an escort agency without freaking out. Sometimes it's important to put yourself at other people's place. I think it's possible that some people have an idea of what being an escort is like, and once they start working they end up realizing that this isn't what they signed up for. They see other women who are okay doing it, and they think they should just keep going and they might understand what the appeal is. That's kinda what she says in another interview too.
I remember one of the parlors I worked at.. There were a few very young girls who started working there at some point. I don't want to blame the boss or the secretaries but I don't know that the job was explained to them very well. I remember one of them told me she wasn't expecting having to do full service, and she quit after a few months because she was really uncomfortable
No sorry. The nature of this business means that when it’s busted it’s always the clients who are painted as evil manipulators.
God forbid a man who is unlucky with women would take steps to be able to live a decent sexual life, paying for it automatically puts you right above pedophiles in the eyes of society.
Dude! As tu violenté les escortes que tu as vu? As tu impression qu’elles etaient exploités? Tu crois un reportage biasé au lieu de tes propres yeux?
Yes, I can imagine her situation being much like that.
I recall an interview with her where she was asked directly if literally every client she saw mistreated her - and she said yes. Logically, we can suspect that to be an exaggeration (even though it's true for her), but the result of statements like that made out loud without any other context is that it really paints a picture for the public that the only people who see SP's are some sort of deviants who have no respect for women. It makes the industry as a whole seem decrepid. Oddly, it actually hurts the women more, as I think the general reaction is - "well this should be outlawed, full stop". (Because of course abuse should be punished).
Ultimately, I wouldn't want her to be silenced, obviously, as her voice is important - but so far there's been nothing to provide any nuance to all this.
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This is sad news, a bad situation getting worse. Goodgirls (later spinning off Euphoria and another agency whose name I don't remember) filled the gap when Asservissante and Eleganza disappeared. Euphoria was good for a while. During and after the pandemic, it never recaptured its past glory days. This is really it - the chance to see young girls with a pretty face and youthful body is going to be as rare as seeing the unicorn.
I got two phone numbers from Euphoria girls, and I deleted them from my phone after all of this CBC drama went down. I don't need that kind of heat.
It doesn't take a genius to understand that escorts have been taken advantage of and abused at agencies.
In all my time it happened once that I came into the room, saw the girl and knew something wasn’t right. She clearly didn’t want to be there.
I left the money on the table and left. Took a loss and never used that agency again.
You have eyes to see. Open them.
I just want to highlight the fact that everyone has different experiences in this industry once again.. and that maybe she felt mistreated by all of her clients, while another escort would react differently to those clients. I don't think men who see sex workers are deviants or at least not necessarily and I have said this before and I will say it again : almost all the bad experiences you have as a SP, you could have with somebody you went on a tinder date with. However, I do feel like there is a sense of entitlement among certain clients.
I also think it's delusional to think that nobody gets abused and taken advantage of in this industry. I just don't think outlawing this is the solution. It doesn't have to be this way. There are many preventive measures that could be taken.
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