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My post was geared more toward John leaving merb after many years... Due to?
The mods have the answers but are not sharing on the public board. I'm sure if all the rules were the same for all advertisers then John would still be advertising for eleganza on merb.
That's so funny, it's almost not funny!

Most, if not all advertisers who had to deal with Mods because of rules issues are still advertising here. For the fews that are gone, the cause were visible in public and it was evident they would leave.

John and Eleganza never had any rules issues as far as I can tell and, no matter what, the rules are the same for everybody.

Just guess what advertiser had plenty of "rules issues" on the board? They were all solved, to MERB satisfaction, with MERB rules, without fighting or threat to leave. I won't tell who it is but they are still here!

I say it again, the rules are the same for everybody.
 

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Mod8;

Where can we meet?

I'll show all the proof's that this board IS controlled by Escort Agencies... now, if I prove it... will you let everyone know on this board?

I'll just put in a little "advance"...

http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=209344&highlight=read+pm's

ALL your PM's are being monitored on this board... I also have the proof of that...

So Mod 8 where do we meet so I can PROVE this to you? The ball is on your side now... and if I am banned or REMOVED it will certainly NOT be good for MERB's reputation as I and many would consider this as a "cover" to the truth!

I don't know why no one else has commented on this but ... I would sure want to know how Escort Agencies are controlling this site.

Is it through their advertising revenues? Do they have a hand in appointing Mods or limiting their powers in some way? Expanded NRP and other similar policies restricting what can be posted? Recurring suspensions on first-time infringers who make an honest mistake (ie providing a link to an MP whom they have not met)?

Or is it something more technologically oriented?

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I don't know why no one else has commented on this but ... I would sure want to know how Escort Agencies are controlling this site.

Is it through their advertising revenues? Do they have a hand in appointing Mods or limiting their powers in some way? Expanded NRP and other similar policies restricting what can be posted? Recurring suspensions on first-time infringers who make an honest mistake (ie providing a link to an MP whom they have not met)?

Or is it something more technologically oriented?

:eek:
No one else mentionned anything because there's nothing to mention.

Actually, I'm a mod since July and I am still surprised of how much liberty Mods have to run the board. Fred pays the bills and set the legal boundaries and besides this, we are in charge of how to run the board, with the member's feedback.

Proof of it is the latest change to the NRP by Mod 8. Mod 8 did the work, we discussed it and it was implemented. Fred was advised but didn't get involved.

As far as I know, Fred never got involved to revise a Mod's decision and never rejected a suggestion made by the Mod team as of who should be picked as a new Mod.

If Fred doesn't control us more than that, I wonder how an agency owner could?

For the PM stuff, this rumor exist since day one and this same rumor probably exist on all boards, escorts and cooking recipt boards included. It's a very easy accusation that comes out once in a while from peoples with agendas. Strangely, it never go to the proof level, it always stays as a rumor. The proof are always at arm's lenght but never readily available.

There is a huge difference between being able to do something and actually doing it. Any car can go to 150km/h but very few peoples will go that fast. Same with administrators reading the member's PM. Those who don't trust the administrators and mods should not waste time here and go elsewhere. Fred is swearing the PM are private and I have no reason to believe otherwise. Everybody who ever insinuated the opposite could never proove it either, all they could do is to say they had proofs.
 
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No one else mentionned anything because there's nothing to mention.

Actually, I'm a mod since July and I am still surprised of how much liberty Mods have to run the board. Fred pays the bills and set the legal boundaries and besides this, we are in charge of how to run the board, with the member's feedback.

Proof of it is the latest change to the NRP by Mod 8. Mod 8 did the work, we discussed it and it was implemented. Fred was advised but didn't get involved.

As far as I know, Fred never got involved to revise a Mod's decision and never rejected a suggestion made by the Mod team as of who should be picked as a new Mod.

If Fred doesn't control us more than that, I wonder how an agency owner could?

For the PM stuff, this rumor exist since day one and this same rumor probably exist on all boards, escorts and cooking recipt boards included. It's a very easy accusation that comes out once in a while from peoples with agendas. Strangely, it never go to the proof level, it always stays as a rumor. The proof are always at arm's lenght but never readily available.

There is a huge difference between being able to do something and actually doing it. Any car can go to 150km/h but very few peoples will go that fast. Same with administrators reading the member's PM. Those who don't trust the administrators and mods should not waste time here and go elsewhere. Fred is swearing the PM are private and I have no reason to believe otherwise. Everybody who ever insinuated the opposite could never proove it either, all they could do is to say they had proofs.

Who cares? This thread has taken terrible turns on several occasions. This board is for advertising and posting reviews. I hope to god this board does not become over run with people's competing conspiracy theories about who runs merb.

John and eleganza do not advertise on merb. In fact they do, just very very rarely. But who cares anyway. John has trouble keeping his girls... yes it's partially because of the 1 week schedule he wishes to post in advance and yes it's partially because he doesn't pick up his girls where ever they may live. Fact of the matter is there is something else going on with John and that bloody agency. For some reason, EVERYONE leaves.

As far as him falling in love... it ain't the first time. I know 2 isolated stories about John falling in love with one of his girls and it turning out sour. John appears to be 'friends' with his girls while they work for him. Perhaps he has difficulty separating work from pleasure. This to me sounds like a more interesting topic then 'who really controls merb'. I mean we might as well talk about Star Trek.

I don't believe there is anything to Eleganza not advertising on merb. They sell out every night. They don't need merb. The bigger problem is why can't he hold onto his talent. And why doesn't he adapt in order to keep his girls. If his girls don't like the scheduling, you don't need a Harvard business degree to know... change the f***ing scheduling John!

Lets try to keep this thread on its initial and interesting course rather than clutter it with Star Trek-like bs.
 

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I noticed a negative change in John's attitude towards customers early last year and mentioned it to Leah during a 3 hour appt. Her comment was as follows: "he fell in love".

Again? Lol. :D
 

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John and eleganza do not advertise on merb. In fact they do, just very very rarely. But who cares anyway. John has trouble keeping his girls... yes it's partially because of the 1 week schedule he wishes to post in advance and yes it's partially because he doesn't pick up his girls where ever they may live. Fact of the matter is there is something else going on with John and that bloody agency. For some reason, EVERYONE leaves.

SPK,

LOL, what can I say? The guy has got it good. He's surrounded by beautiful women everywhere in his life. Can you imagine living in his shoes for even a day?

CS

Hello CS,

If they are all leaving then it's far from being like the fantasy situation you imply.

I have been told by ladies about owners who insist they get free samples or they don't get appointments. Don't know if John does that :rolleyes:, but put together his famously lousy attitude and the fact that John is all for John with other possibilities and the reason for the exodus comes into focus.

Cheers,

Merlot
 
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I asked Gianna about this claim and she denied ever being asked for this. I don't have this in writing, but from personal interview with her.

Gianna...What a wonderful wonderful lady!!

Thing is she doesn't seem the "type" to be taken advantage of in that way, therefore that person probably didn't put forth the effort with her as much as he might with a more naive gal, she probably would've kicked his ass anyway. LOL.
 

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No one else mentionned anything because there's nothing to mention.

Actually, I'm a mod since July and I am still surprised of how much liberty Mods have to run the board. Fred pays the bills and set the legal boundaries and besides this, we are in charge of how to run the board, with the member's feedback.

Proof of it is the latest change to the NRP by Mod 8. Mod 8 did the work, we discussed it and it was implemented. Fred was advised but didn't get involved.

As far as I know, Fred never got involved to revise a Mod's decision and never rejected a suggestion made by the Mod team as of who should be picked as a new Mod.

If Fred doesn't control us more than that, I wonder how an agency owner could?

For the PM stuff, this rumor exist since day one and this same rumor probably exist on all boards, escorts and cooking recipt boards included. It's a very easy accusation that comes out once in a while from peoples with agendas. Strangely, it never go to the proof level, it always stays as a rumor. The proof are always at arm's lenght but never readily available.

There is a huge difference between being able to do something and actually doing it. Any car can go to 150km/h but very few peoples will go that fast. Same with administrators reading the member's PM. Those who don't trust the administrators and mods should not waste time here and go elsewhere. Fred is swearing the PM are private and I have no reason to believe otherwise. Everybody who ever insinuated the opposite could never proove it either, all they could do is to say they had proofs.

Mod 11 -- thanks very much for taking the time to provide a detailed reply. I imagine that the poster who claims to possess incontrovertible evidence about this site's alleged flaws, knows how to reach you.

As a matter of not just acting fairly but appearing fair, I think that so long as Mods have the freedom to implement policies that enhance our posting experience, by allowing the free flow of information that appears to be of the non-shilled variety, then we all stand to benefit.

This whole business about not providing links about non-visited MPs kind of hampers our ability to get immediate info. More often then not, I find myself performing searches on sites that aren't always user-friendly or which involve searching in many different categories, before the intended subject is found.

A few years ago, we didn't have this policy and things worked quite well. It felt like a review site. Now, it feels as if the advertisers on this site are casting a huge shadow on how information is being exchanged. And yet ... they have their own forums and threads and plenty of space to express and promote themselves. Why not leave the regular forums to the regular chumps and allow the posting of links so we all put an end to these useless intellectual gymnastics. Seriously, what harm would it do? We waste so much time posting information about how to find a link, and most posters still can't figure out if they can post a link or not.

Plus, suspending posters who provide a link further to making an honest mistake about this policy, casts a unnecessarily negative shadow on our posting experience.

Every reviewer who is put off or suspended due to the no-link-posting policy, will simply not bother contributing reviews to this site. And then people wonder why so few people post reviews.

Why not offer a welcoming climate and put an end to suspensions for posting links? If someone is not a shill, then why be so harsh? Please see if the no-link policy can be removed once and for all. It would go a long way, in my humble opinion.
 
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Gianna mmmmm!!!
Wow the smile that occurs when I hear that name. What an all around superstar!!
The picture perfect hot gem!!
 

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Hello everyone,

I would like to make a humorous reply to the quoted posts below but I find that my sense of humor is lacking at the moment. I am actually very pissed off at the moment. How many times do we have to reply to these stupid conspiracy theories, complaints about the NRP and explain that links to non-advertisers are not permitted in 411 posts? It seems that they come up every few months and we got through it all over again.

Well here are a couple of replies for the quoted posts and then I will make a final statement on this matter.

To GiveAndTake,

Moderators apply the same rules equally to all advertisers.We do not have different rules for different advertisers. Moderators do not have any contact with any advertiser beyond our moderator duties. We do not receive kickbacks, we do not receive discounts, no advertiser or other member has any knowledge of who the moderators are. If anyone has anything different to say I invite them to post it here on MERB and be able to back it up with proof. You make an accusation that "The mods have the answers but are not sharing on the public board" Really? Do you have proof of this? Continue posting shit like this with no proof to back up your accusations and I will ban your ass permanently.

To Jack_Bauer,

If Agencies are controlling this board, I would also like to know how they are doing so. Advertising revenues have absolutely nothing to do with the moderators on MERB. We are not paid and it makes no difference to us how much revenue the advertisers bring in. Limiting our powers? In what way? Any moderator can ban any member, advertiser or other, for any duration even permanently. And we have done so in the past with a number of advertisers who have been overly disruptive on MERB. Expanded NRP and restricting what can be posted? Can you provide any examples? The only thing we restrict is what is directly prohibited by MERB rules and guidelines on posting. Our NRP policy is quite clear, no actively advertised SP will be granted a NRP, we will grant a NRP to any MP that is not advertising on MERB due to the fact that some posts may bring unwanted attention from LE. We do not allow any SP to use the NRP to hide from bad reviews. We receive complaints that we have this policy but HFE posted in this thread that on merc a thread vanished and he did not understand why until he noticed that there was a NRP posted here on MERB. Would members prefer that we acted in that way and did not inform them when threads were removed? We are honest about the fact that we do have such a policy and do not hide it from our members.

New Moderators are chosen by the existing moderators, not by Fred, not by the advertisers. No one has any say in who is invited to be or is appointed a moderator other than the existing moderators.

As for banning posters who make an "honest mistake" as you put it, well if those posters would take even 5 minutes to read the rules on MERB before posting, or look at the suspended members thread, they would find out pretty damn fast what is and is not permitted to be posted here. Ignorance or laziness is not an excuse.
We have put up with these posts for so long and it was time to take a stand. There is no excuse for anyone not to know that posting links to non-advertisers in the 411 thread is going to get you a 2 day suspension. Do we have to make it 2 months before people get it through their thick skulls? The rule is very simple, links are not permitted in the 411 section to any non-advertising site. All links are permitted in reviews. This rule has always existed and in the past links were simply removed. Moderators have grown tired of always removing these links and it is much better to prevent them from being posted in the first place. We have better things to do with our time than remove links.

For the conspiracy theorists,

Moderators are not paid, we do not receive freebies or discounts or extra services from anyone. We donate our time to MERB so that everyone can have a pleasant place to post and have a bit of fun and entertainment. For those of you who believe in these conspiracy theories there is nothing any moderator can say to convince you otherwise. If this is the case the only thing I can say to you is if you do not trust us and do not trust the information posted on MERB, get the fuck off our board! We do not need you here or want you here stirring up shit and creating problems that do not not exist. If anyone continues to post this kind of crap and cannot support their claims with proof, I will ban you permanently. This is your one and only warning.

A special word for SECRET SEDUCTIONS
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You have made some serious accusations against the MERB moderators and administration. I invite you to provide the proof you posted about to a moderator or to post it on the board. I will give you 48hrs to do so. This is not a mild request. If you do not back up your claims, you will be permanently banned from MERB. You state " if I am banned or REMOVED it will certainly NOT be good for MERB's reputation ". Maybe not for those who actually believe you but if I allow this accusation to go unchallenged, it will not be good for MERB to let you stay and spread your bullshit and attack the reputation of MERB and it's moderators while not providing any proof. You have until Wednesday, Nov 11, 2009 to provide your proof.

For all members,

If anyone has any valid questions about how the moderators run the board, you are more than welcome to send a PM to any moderator with your question or if you think it may be of interest to other members feel free to start a thread. We will be more than happy to reply to you.

If you have any suggestions as to how we can improve MERB, you may do either of the above suggestions or simply post it in the suggestion thread in the Lounge. We are always looking for ways to improve the board and all input is welcome. No suggestion is too insignificant to be considered and no question will go answered.

If this post seems to have an angry undertone to it, too bad. I am tired of seeing the efforts of all the moderators constantly being attacked and spit on. We donate many hours of our time every day to moderate MERB and make it a worthwhile place to post. We do our best to make sure that those who visit MERB will want to become members and share their experiences and knowledge for everyone's gain. If anyone does not appreciate this and does not have confidence in MERB, then you are free to leave. If you post unsubstantiated accusations, you will be banned.

This is the last time I will post about the unsubstantiated bullshit and rumors that always seem to continue to float around. In the future anyone who posts such garbage better have the proof to back themselves up and be ready to post it or they will be banned permanently from MERB. I have had enough of this.

Mod 8






My post was geared more toward John leaving merb after many years... Due to?
The mods have the answers but are not sharing on the public board. I'm sure if all the rules were the same for all advertisers then John would still be advertising for eleganza on merb.

I don't know why no one else has commented on this but ... I would sure want to know how Escort Agencies are controlling this site.

Is it through their advertising revenues? Do they have a hand in appointing Mods or limiting their powers in some way? Expanded NRP and other similar policies restricting what can be posted? Recurring suspensions on first-time infringers who make an honest mistake (ie providing a link to an MP whom they have not met)?

Or is it something more technologically oriented?

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Given that I have encountered a few ladies in the past few months, I am definitely guilty of not contributing as much as I probably should. But whenever comes the time for me to decide whether or not to post a review, the question I ask myself is:

Is there a need for me to post a review on the lady I just met?

Most often than not, the answer I come up is no. The major reason for it is that I tend to go for SPs who have been already abundantly reviewed here (and often very eloquently I might add); e.g. Marie-Eve (Asservissante), Kim, Stacy (ex-Devilish), Allyson (GOF), etc. The experiences I have had so far with them have always been positive (ranging from good to amazing), as the threads for many of these ladies tend to be.

Question then is: why add clutter to threads which are updated on a regular basis?

Add a bit of laziness to it, a lack of inspiration with words, and that's enough usually for me not to contribute.

I wouldn't be surprised if something similar applies to many other lurkers.
R

If everyone were to think like you then there would virtually be no traffic on this board. Nevertheless, I do understand your reasoning.

Its not about whether or not your review is necessary but its a matter of keeping the board current and busy. When i look for a review of a girl on my tdl I want to see a recent review and not one from 2007.

So we need new and current reviews and we also need traffic on this board.
 

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why add clutter to threads which are updated on a regular basis?
I don't think a short but factual review will be seen as clutter. A simple "saw her recently, service still stellar as described in previous posts" with possibly a small observation specific to your encounter, for instance "I was surprised she arrived right on time even though it was late in her shift" will be fast to read and still provide some information.
 
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