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[EagerBeaver]

You can't impeach a President so that someone else can take power, it has to be for cause and that which you suggest will never fly or be attempted.

However Pence has been promoted as well as Sessions in the transition hierarchy and Christie appropriately demoted, which should reflect the stain he should carry from having his direct minions cause the Bridgegate and resulting criminal convictions. This type of pettiness should never be tolerated and to have put in writing in emails what that knuckleheaded chief of staff did was so stupid she deserved to be convicted as a result. Christie is responsible for the conduct of his minions and she was a direct minion. If her actions didn't get communicated to him then shame on him for not managing his minions properly. They serve at your pleasure Chris not their own.

 

[Doc Holliday]

If I am not mistaken Trump's son in law, the guy married to Ivanka, is Jewish. It seems unlikely Hitler would
Have tolerated Jews in his immediate family and he is not known to have dated any Jewish girls.

It has been rumoured that Adolf Hitler himself had jewish ancestry. Same thing with one of the Nazi elites named Reinhard Heydrich, who was one of the top Nazi officials responsible for the Holocaust & 'the Final Solution'. Allegations of his jewish ancestry hounded him for years until his death near the end of WWII.

Just because his son-in-law happens to be jewish doesn't mean anything. We live in 2016. People living in western society are generally free to chose whom they want to marry. The parents may not agree with it, but usually end up accepting it.

I know of muslims who hate fellow muslims because their values and traditions do not match. I'm certain there are jews who hate fellow jews for similar reasons.

 

[Doc Holliday]

Will a Republican majority congress impeach Trump so that a true conservative like Mike Pense can become president?
If he becomes too hard to handle or breaks some laws then its all very possible.

I totally agree and this was alluded to by some Republicans even before election day. But i see this happening only if Steve Bannon winds up being named chief-of-staff. He's been at war with many in the current Republican establishment and he has been a strong critic of the Republican Party himself. But if it's someone such as Reince Priebus pulling the strings, i regard him as being more conciliatory with high-ranking fellow Republicans. But i have no doubt Bannon will be kept on as an advisor and the unstable Donald Trump could very likely fire Priebus or any other chief-of-staff if he dares to disagree with him.

By the way, Chris Christy was just demoted from the transition team and Mike Pence has taken over. We're being told that it has to do with Christy's 'Bridgegate' scandal. However, i've learned that Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner has been at odds with Christy ever since he joined the campaign since Christy once successfully prosecuted Kushner's father when Christy was a federal prosecutor. Jared Kushner, who is married to Ivanka Trump, holds a lot of influence with Trump and was among the group of people visiting the White House yesterday. Because of Kushner's influence, i believe Steve Bannon will not get the chief-of-staff nod. Kushner is rumoured to prefer Priebus for the job.

 

[Passionné]

Will a Republican majority congress impeach Trump so that a true conservative like Mike Pense can become president?

We all know I despise Trump, but now that sleazebag will be inaugurated you have to protect the office. Try what you suggest without proper cause and the U.S. becomes a very unstable Banana Republic where legitimacy becomes only a matter of personal power, which was significant in Rome's downfall. The office simply cannot be treated like a revolving door circus no matter what. That was the reason I wouldn't support it against the very cheap reasons it was tired against Clinton and I'll certainly stand by that now.

Trump will need belief in him and loyalty from Republicans who are sure to exert deep influence for him to get anything done. That will be the control on him, and a lot of what Trump has promised goes against what many Republicans put in for their constituents. Trump cannot do many things he wants to on his own and some things like eliminating "gun free zones" for one are controlled by state not federal laws.

Here's one article pointing out how difficult and foolish it would be to try to fulfill all his promises.

http://fortune.com/2016/11/09/donald-trump-trade-immigration-healthcare/

But, the same guy who predicted Trump's victory predicts his impeachment.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...trump-will-be-impeached/ar-AAkbsjd?li=BBnb7Kz

At the end of our September conversation, Lichtman made another call: That if elected, Trump would eventually be impeached by a Republican Congress that would prefer a President Mike Pence — someone who establishment Republicans know and trust.

“I'm going to make another prediction,” he said. “This one is not based on a system, it's just my gut. They don't want Trump as president, because they can't control him. He's unpredictable. They'd love to have Pence — an absolutely down the line, conservative, controllable Republican. And I'm quite certain Trump will give someone grounds for impeachment, either by doing something that endangers national security or because it helps his pocketbook.”

So while Republican voters clearly came home before Nov. 8 — network exit polls show 90 percent of GOP voters cast ballots for Trump — it's less clear that the party leadership is on board. (Lichtman actually isn't the only person to predict a Trump impeachment; this morning, the New York Times's David Brooks suggested a Trump impeachment or resignation was “probably” in the cards sometime within the next year.)

As I said I don't want the cause to be anything unworthy, but if you really think Trump isn't selfish or dumb enough to do something incredibly stupid and illegal your fooling yourself. For his sake he better listen to his advisors.

But i see this happening only if Steve Bannon winds up being named chief-of-staff. He's been at war with many in the current Republican establishment and he has been a strong critic of the Republican Party himself.

A few posts ago I said don't think you can't make wholesale changes to the establishment or you will get F&$#*@D!

Cheers

 

[lgna69xxx]

I understand Hungry101 got banned for replying to Kasey Jones in the same manner that KJ post to him so H101 has asked me to post the following for him

"Happy belated birthday to the marine corp nov 10 1775"

and the following:


Enjoy Trump Haters! :thumb:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qvf2i1mEVg0

 

[Doc Holliday]

I understand Hungry101 got banned for replying to Kasey Jones in the same manner that KJ post to him so H101 has asked me to post the following for him

"Happy belated birthday to the marine corp nov 10 1775"

and the following:


Enjoy Trump Haters! :thumb:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qvf2i1mEVg0

Isn't it an offense to post for someone who's already been banned? I remember someone getting time off for a week for this in the past. Just saying.

 

[lgna69xxx]

Ummmmmmmmmm you had me do it for you once, remember ound:

The election results hittin' ya pretty hard or what my friend? Now you know how I felt 4 years ago.

Isn't it an offense to post for someone who's already been banned? I remember someone getting time off for a week for this in the past. Just saying.

 

[Doc Holliday]

Ummmmmmmmmm you had me do it for you once, remember ound:

I don't remember, but it's possible. If so, i don't believe you had mentioned that you were posting for me. Even so, it doesn't mean that you shouldn't have been banned! :lol:

 

[Doc Holliday]

Ummmmmmmmmm you had me do it for you once, remember ound:

Okay, i remember now. I think i was away for a while and i had given you permission to post for me using my handle. That's when mod 8 and mod 12 were around. On another note, I met up with a former mod the other day and he admitted to me that he knew all along that i had been posting with an alternate handle in the past, which i'd only use when i'd be posting from one of the major airports' internet server. I finally got him to spill the beans and admit how he knew it was me. Shame on me for thinking i could get one past him. Brilliant guy.

 

[Passionné]

Isn't it an offense to post for someone who's already been banned? I remember someone getting time off for a week for this in the past. Just saying.

Yeah, I thought I'd let someone else post that.

 

[lgna69xxx]

No it was not using your handle (would not have worked anyways because as i said your handle was banned) as i never had your passcode nor would not ever want it, one handle is enough for me anyways thank you very much. It was when you were banned, you had asked me to post something and say it was for you but nothing that broke the rules like insults or anything or i would not have done it. I forget what it was about now but something in the hockey thread or birthday wishes or something like that.

About Mod8, yes he was a good guy until the end, he kind of lost it but this is the last place he needed to be anymore, ones health is more important.

Okay, i remember now. I think i was away for a while and i had given you permission to post for me using my handle. That's when mod 8 and mod 12 were around. On another note, I met up with a former mod the other day and he admitted to me that he knew all along that i had been posting with an alternate handle in the past, which i'd only use when i'd be posting from one of the major airports' internet server. I finally got him to spill the beans and admit how he knew it was me. Shame on me for thinking i could get one past him. Brilliant guy.

 

[EagerBeaver]

Why was hungry101 banned? I did not even notice the banning or what may have caused it.

 

[lgna69xxx]

Because he broke the same rule that kasey jones did, he was called stupid and other personal insults and retaliated with the same. Hungry101 texted me and asked me to post about the Marines for Veterans day since he couldn't and i did the honorable thing for my friend just like i would do for anyone where as this veterans day means so much to those who fought for their country and lost loved ones. I will say this, Hungry is a very passionate man when it comes to his family, friends and country. Very honorable guy.

Why was hungry101 banned? I did not even notice the banning or what may have caused it.

 

[lgna69xxx]

LOL, this coming from a guy who created 3 new handles (one after the other after each was banned when M20 discovered it was you) while you were banned for six months late last year and a good portion of this year.

B R A V O! :clap2:

Yeah, I thought I'd let someone else post that.

 

[EagerBeaver]

I too salute all the veterans. My Grandpa was in the US Navy, my father in the US Army, my great uncle fought for the US army in World War II and received a Purple Heart and my cousin saw combat action and was shot at by Viet Cong snipers every day while clearing jungle roads for tank battalions. He was wounded by friendly fire but didn't get a Purple Heart because there is no medal when friendly fire caused the wounds. Even though the other guy fucked up. I salute their service which they all spoke to me about in great detail and all 4 were proud to serve our country.

 

[lgna69xxx]

Doc? mErlot? Don't want you guys to get your panites in a wad but i bet you did not know Donald J. Trump was a member here did ya? Well he has his hands full right now but he asked me to post something for him also, and he said to make sure it was clear it was for all those who said he would never win so for all his haters, here is just a simple message the Teflon Don wanted me to post in his honor:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX7wtNOkuHo

See what i did there? Are we done now boyzzzzzzzzz?

 

[Passionné]

Trump Broken Promise Betrayal #2

:lol: Still only 3 days since the election and he's broken two major promises already. If you looked at the link I offered in post 2069 you would have seen why. There are some things it would be very difficult to change, and throwing 20 million people off insurance coverage is a major practical and political problem. I have a feeling Dump is just making another offer he'll break, but certainly he can't get rid of it all.

Trump appears open to compromise on Obamacare

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/11/politics/donald-trump-obamacare-interview/index.html

The comments, made in an interview with the Wall Street Journal, signal less of a policy shift for Trump than a change from the rhetoric that helped win him the presidency just three days ago and could set up a fight with conservatives.

Trump told the paper he was reconsidering his stance after Thursday's meeting with Obama, who urged him to protect parts of the law. Trump said he would like to keep the provision forbidding discrimination based on pre-existing conditions and to allow young Americans to remain on their parents' healthcare plans.

"Either Obamacare will be amended, or repealed and replaced," he said, acknowledging that it was Obama, who met with Trump in the Oval Office for 90 minutes, who encouraged him to reconsider. "I told him I will look at his suggestions, and out of respect, I will do that."

That position is not entirely new -- he did say as much at least once during the primaries. But the statement, three days after Americans elected him president, is a fresh sign that he may be willing to distance himself from some of his campaign positioning, such as calling for the immediate repeal and replace of Obamacare.

And it's a far cry from what Trump uttered during the primary to his boisterous fans at rallies.

Point is his supporters bought a pig with a lot of lipstick. Either he can't do what he promised to the degree he said he would, or the Republicans won't let him. He'll be President only as much as his party, which actually doesn't trust and hates him, lets him.

Cheers

 

[lgna69xxx]

Exactly Sam, crybabies are gonna cry just for the sake of it. No Pres ever keeps all of their promises, it is simply impossible but as long as he does many good things for the country he represents than all is well, he can pretty much only go up from where he is starting after the last 8 years.

Somewhere i read he has to fill 4000 jobs under him, is this true? Holy Crap, he really must love his country to want to do this because frankly, at 70 years of age and extremely wealthy, why does he need this? Yep, he must definately love his country.

 

[westwoody]

I salute their service which they all spoke to me about in great detail and all 4 were proud to serve our country.

It is good they talked to you about it.
My parents were both in the Royal Air Force.
My mother was an aircraft mechanic. She had been a typesetter and they assigned her based on that. She eventually worked her way up to test flying repaired aircraft at Hawker and signing off on them as air worthy. People don't believe it, but every Brit who was male and could fly was in combat. Having women pilots freed up the men for combat.
My father hardly ever said anything except when he was drunk. He saw awful things and I know they haunted him. He had two brothers. One disappeared, MIA, the other was an SAS desert rat, he was crippled for life. My dad also saw Buchenwald and Dachau.
He had one story about his best friend he told over and over. The guy had ptsd and lost his mind, he went into a mess tent full of senior officers and was threatening them with his Tommy gun. Someone fetched my dad, and he talked his buddy down. Then he had to testify against him at a court martial. He said that was the worst thing he ever did in his life.
We have it so easy...the stupid things we worry about eh?

 

[EagerBeaver]

How does this make him different than any other politician?
How many keep their promises after they get elected?
You think Hilary would have?
It is always a case of which do you distrust the most, the one that is stealing you blind but has already filled his pockets or the new one coming in that has not learnt all the details of stealing you blind yet but has empty pockets.
Two of the worst candidates ever , but Trump has earned his chance , he won according to the electoral rules in place today and now it is time to make the best of it.

Bottom line is Trump should be compromising on Obamacare. Who cares if he promised to repeal it, he should be doing what is right, not what he promised, as with all politicians who backtrack on campaign promises. And what is right is to amend and modify Obamacare. Trump will listen to a lot of smart people and if they tell him to do something different than what he promised and it is the right thing to do, he should just do it.